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Titel: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 16 november, 2020, 11:45:27
Hello my Swedish friends. I am long time Finnish gold miner from Lemmenjoki and nowdays i occasionally do some youtube videos.  I've been monitoring traffic from this forum to my youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/c/Jomsatube/featured (https://www.youtube.com/c/Jomsatube/featured) and i've been bit surprised by the continued traffic. I am guessing it is mostly because my neighbouring miners such as Hannu & co... but i thought that why not to hop i här to discuss a little bit about stuff, as Finnish forums are quite quiet.

My Swedish language is very poor (though just last winter went throu basics course at local Uni), but what i've gathered with google translate discussions seem to go around all sorts of topics here so i'll try to see what i can learn from here. Also do check out my YT channel. There will be new content coming occasionally (actually today at 17:00 Finnish time) will be the last part of my Kaarreoja mining stuff from past summer. I'll try to remember post on this thread once it is out.

But yeah, hope to see loads of interesting discussions. And big HI from me.
Titel: SV: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 16 november, 2020, 15:09:56
And here is the vid as promised : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqB9fGAGp_0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqB9fGAGp_0)
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Skrivet av: Grävmaskinisten skrivet 16 november, 2020, 16:59:39
Welcome :)
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 16 november, 2020, 22:32:47
Hi Jomsa and welcome! It's nice to see you here, we have been following your adventures for a while now. It's nice that you make videos in english, because most of us can't understand much finnish beyond kippis and kiitos  :-[

I just finished watching today's episode of your Lemmenjoki mining. Kaarreoja is a strange place for gold, it isn't always where you expect it to be. This summer I was prospecting a lot of places on our claim just north of you, but it is so hard to find a new paystreak. Even where there's nice bedrock it can be totally empty. Where are the 200 gram nuggets hiding??  :))

The reddish concrete material you talked about is familiar to me, we have some of it in the lower part of the claim near the creek. The gold that comes out of it is also stained red, it seems like there has been a lot of pyrite or something in the soil that made it rust. That's my theory for why it is so hard, and has that colour. But it's difficult digging, and if you have clumps they just wash out of the sluice so you really need to smash it   :-\

I can't wait to get back there and start digging again. This summer I had to leave just after finding some nice gold in my pit near Isola, so next year will be very exciting  ;D  Hope to meet you up there then, I think I missed you by 2-3 days this time.

Enjoy your stay here on guldforum!
Titel: SV: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 16 november, 2020, 22:41:29
Cool. Its a real drag choosing between the language for the films as i am fully aware that its almost clear 50/50 split in the viewers between Finnish speaking and people from all over the world.

Yeah the red stuff is mushed up bedrock i think and the clay (if any) is somesort of accretion... conglomerate materia. The clay is so puzzling that i cant really figure it out.

I am trying to arrange a very very long vacations off from work so i get to mine for a long time. I am also trying to setup few new expeditions and of course i am going to keep up on helping my cousin set him up with his new claim.

Learned a lot this summer and trying to see if i can improve my video and mining gear... But need to find some capital for all of it.
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 16 november, 2020, 23:13:10
It's really nice living up there for several weeks, hope you can get the time off for next season. I'm jealous of your cabin, we have to live in tents and it's not always the most comfortable living  :))

Speaking of the bedrock, I keep getting surprised by how "flat" and nice your bedrock is. Just 200 meters north where we have been digging, the bedrock is made up of loose flat plates with dissolved bedrock between them. It is very hard to just take off the paydirt on top and stop there, because the plates fall off and make new holes. And all the plates are sticking up at an angle, so if you want a flat floor in the pit you need to fill it with something.

Is the bedrock solid and without plates where you dig? Or do you cover the floor with some dirt to make it smooth?
Titel: SV: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 16 november, 2020, 23:31:01
I have the slates too. But they come and go in phases. Say you got line where you got coarse slate bedrock slabs like the ones you describe and then right next to it you can have the very crushed and smooth bedrock. So its not homogenous. Next time you are around, check the flood creek coming down in the lower part of my claim (near your site) the bottom of that creek is those slabs and they are hard going, but some of the best gold i've found ever was in those slabs. Actually it was those slabs which were glued together by clay. Almost like a brick wall like configuration. The smooth bedrock has been puzzling me too a bit, but i have done now 2 test sluicings of it and there does not seem to be any gold in it. I suppose i could try breaking through it. But who knows if there is 30cm or 30m of the stuff.
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Skrivet av: gangsing finne skrivet 17 november, 2020, 16:25:27
Tervetuloa minunkin puolesta .täällä toinen suomalainen C:-) .itselläki oli sama syy tulla tänne ,täällä foorumilla  on aktiivisempaa vaskaus porukkaa  8) .komiaa  8)

Övers. Välkommen från egen del .här är en till finne .har själv haft samma orsak att komma hit ,denna forum har aktivare vaskare  C:-) .finemang   8)
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Skrivet av: gangsing finne skrivet 17 november, 2020, 16:31:27
My name gangsing is becouse im born and grow up in sweden and place of gagnef .we are more swedenfinns here than you can belive it  C:-)
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 17 november, 2020, 16:34:13
I see. I've sort of got a feeling about something like that going on here.
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Skrivet av: iller skrivet 21 november, 2020, 17:14:01
Hey Jomsa! Magnus here and welcome to the forum :D
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 21 november, 2020, 18:13:31
Hey Jomsa! Magnus here and welcome to the forum :D

I hope i am not disturbing... :D
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Skrivet av: iller skrivet 23 november, 2020, 19:49:30
Hey Jomsa! Magnus here and welcome to the forum :D

I hope i am not disturbing... :D

You are!..... not :D
Titel: SV: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 24 november, 2020, 09:18:07
Hey Jomsa! Magnus here and welcome to the forum :D

I hope i am not disturbing... :D

You are!..... not :D

Good. I'll try to keep to the shadow and not spam your forum with english.. or comsos forbid, Finnish.
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Skrivet av: johanssonsan skrivet 24 november, 2020, 17:52:07
Hey Jomsa! Magnus here and welcome to the forum :D

I hope i am not disturbing... :D

You are!..... not :D

Good. I'll try to keep to the shadow and not spam your forum with english.. or comsos forbid, Finnish.

Finnish is OK as long as you translate it to Swedish.  ???
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Skrivet av: HANNU skrivet 25 november, 2020, 12:22:35
Pieni väärinkäsitys. Tottakai olet tervetullut tänne. Ollaan seurattu sun videoita kauan.
Visst är du välkommen hit. Vi har sett dina videor länge.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 25 november, 2020, 12:26:46
Pieni väärinkäsitys. Tottakai olet tervetullut tänne. Ollaan seurattu sun videoita kauan.

Heh jep. Ymmärsin ironian tuolta kieliuurinkin ylitse. En vain viitsi kirjailla turhia. Mites Hannu, hyvä kuulla, että kaikki meni lopulta Ok sinulla.
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Skrivet av: HANNU skrivet 25 november, 2020, 13:10:28
Kaikki hyvin nyt. Ääni filmissä oli mun avunhuutoa.
Allt bra nu. Var jag som i filmen ropar på hjälp.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 25 november, 2020, 13:15:36
Kaikki hyvin nyt. Ääni filmissä oli mun avunhuutoa.
Allt bra nu. Var jag som i filmen ropar på hjälp.

Yep. Tiedän sen nyt. Edellään kurja fiilis, etten jotenki tajunnu sitä ennenkuin vähän jälkijunassa. Jälleen yksi syy miksi alkoholi ei sovi erämaahan. Mehän olimme pikku krapuloissa siinä aamusella. Onneksi kaikki meni hyvin.
Yeah, i know it now. Still feeling bit bad that i did not figure it out earlier. Once again reminder why alcohol in should not be in the wilderness. We were in a bit of a hangover situtation during that morning. Luckily it all went fine.
Titel: SV: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 30 november, 2020, 18:06:06
Yo my latest video hit the youtube few hours ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BP2r8-3QVM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BP2r8-3QVM) ... we go check out my cousins new claimsite and photograph the damage done be previous unknown miners to appease mining authorities. It is subtitled but spoken language is Finnish so hold on to your ears.
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 01 december, 2020, 23:25:46
Very nice adventure and great job on the subtitles, thanks for bringing us along on the adventure! It looks like an interesting area but like always the gold doesn't come easy. Do you know if there has been any large hippus found in that area?

I laughed when you called it the 10 skull difficulty area. That's how hard I feel Lemmenjoki is when you don't have a friend with an ATV to drive you to the claim...  :-X Speaking of which, did you ever walk from Kaarreoja to Njurgalahti? I did it last summer with a light backpack, it "only" took me 13 hours...  :P
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 02 december, 2020, 07:19:25
The whole Naruska and Tuntsa area are shrouded in mystery. I have heard of rumors about some 13g nugget.. but its all very shady. And as for walking from Kaarreoja to Njurgulahti.. nope never done it. And propably will never do it as i've got older i've got a lot ... lets say.. wealthier by the plate, if you know what i mean. Hiking from the hamina to the claim (10,5km) is an extremely tough job for me as i have all this extra luggage to carry around (the negative side of owning ATV for 10 years before).

Oh yeah and for the Naruska skull level rating. It is mostly due to two factors. The ground there is challenging as it feels extremely deep and the stones are just crazy. Logistics are easy as you can just drive next to most places and walk just few K's.

Good to hear the subtitling is hopefully worth the effort. Its a slow process though.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 09 december, 2020, 10:54:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0BvxuTXp_s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0BvxuTXp_s)

Reviewing the past year and few words about next year. Was released yesterday, but took some time to subtitle it.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 08 januari, 2021, 11:56:20
Hi my Swedish friends. Hope the new year is treating you better than last year (i hope that for everyone really)...  Next monday i will be kicking of this year with new flic laying out the plans for this year, as far as i can.. and couple of new interesting  news also trickled in there. Stay tuned (premiers on monday 18:00 Finnish time):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNNLzn8NwdU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNNLzn8NwdU)
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 12 januari, 2021, 01:48:25
Very interesting video, it looks like 2021 will be a good year  8)

It's great to hear that Tukes is reaching out to you to make that guide. The language has been the biggest barrier for many of us Swedish diggers, so if they hire you to make more guides it would really help us a lot  :D

We have been discussing the dry land dredge here on the forum too. Please update us on what you find out regarding legality and limitations. I believe the conclusion has been that if it doesn't affect the creek water, and is only used in a hole, it should be fine?

As for this years digging, it will be really interesting to see what you will find. Do you know how far the old timers dug into the side of the creek? Down in Petronella it seems like they didn't go very far from the water. Hopefully you have a nice strip of untouched ground on your claim too.

In my pit, I have the same issue with groundwater as you will have in the lower section. I just bought a submersible electric pump, and it will be really interesting to see what is hidden down there. Without the pump or a dredge it is impossible to reach the bottom, but it is looking really good  C:-)

Maybe this year lower Kaarreoja will produce a nice nugget for the hippulista? Let's do our best!   O:-)
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 12 januari, 2021, 05:33:19
Old timer seem to have dug around 5 - 8m wide swathe around the creek itself, but did not get very deep. I've managed to find twice virgin ground at the bottom. I think my area was just too damn hard for the old timers without pumps so they did very minimal digging there.

Yeah the whole TUKES thing caught me with a surprise. It sure will be interesting to do that stuff. The raporting tool video from TUKES will be out in few weeks and then i can start askin Pasi about the next one.

Yeah the language is a hassle. By metrics most of the channels viewers are older generation Finns and thus are not too well versed in English. But i am getting constantly increasing trafic from all over the world, so.. it is really hard to  balance.

Yeah the dredging is a bit complicated matter. I hear also from LKL that they or someone over there is also asking about it from official govermental ... people. We need a clear answer because as you might allready know. Gold panners seem to have a habit to end up in court even with minor causes. So need to be really careful about this. Word of Pasi is not enought as it is not his place to say about it i think. As it is ELY (NTM-centralernas) bussnies to think about that stuff.

So yeah, lets try to hit the nugget charts. I think we have fair chance at it, because after all Kaarreoja has been known to produce few proper big nuggets. Alteast 3 of them i think.
Titel: SV: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: iller skrivet 13 januari, 2021, 07:34:11

Yeah the dredging is a bit complicated matter. I hear also from LKL that they or someone over there is also asking about it from official govermental ... people. We need a clear answer because as you might allready know. Gold panners seem to have a habit to end up in court even with minor causes. So need to be really careful about this. Word of Pasi is not enought as it is not his place to say about it i think. As it is ELY (NTM-centralernas) bussnies to think about that stuff.

As you know we discussed this already but for the others. Pasi told me explicitly it's ok as long as you are on land and are not affecting the creek, basically you are digging just as normal just with another tool.
 
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 13 januari, 2021, 07:52:52
As you know we discussed this already but for the others. Pasi told me explicitly it's ok as long as you are on land and are not affecting the creek, basically you are digging just as normal just with another tool.

Yes but it is not Pasi who is the governmental official who has the say in this. So his opinion is not that valid. And as we speak i just got a message from ELY (https://www.ely-keskus.fi/) from a guy who has some say in this (Rauhala Jouni) .. And i have been exchanging e-mails with him for past month, and finally he send me huge email discussing about the dredging. And i showed him in the latest message this video :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGcjMEDGJhw

and he said it will "MOST LIKELY require water permits" (eg. machine mining permissions).  However the reply was long as F... i'll try to read it thru today with though and see if there are any loopholes.

However. I beg any of those who are thinking about this dry land dredging. Please be careful. We do not want to anger the lawman and get yet another shit storm like 2005 or 2009. :) Especially in Lemmenjoki as the whole future of the place seems to hang by the thread at this time.

But yeah, i'll keep digging as i still have optimistic feeling that there is loophole as there seemed to be some keywords in Rauhala's message that might be what we need to focus on.
Titel: SV: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: iller skrivet 13 januari, 2021, 10:40:27
As you know we discussed this already but for the others. Pasi told me explicitly it's ok as long as you are on land and are not affecting the creek, basically you are digging just as normal just with another tool.

Yes but it is not Pasi who is the governmental official who has the say in this. So his opinion is not that valid. And as we speak i just got a message from ELY (https://www.ely-keskus.fi/) from a guy who has some say in this (Rauhala Jouni) .. And i have been exchanging e-mails with him for past month, and finally he send me huge email discussing about the dredging. And i showed him in the latest message this video :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGcjMEDGJhw

and he said it will "MOST LIKELY require water permits" (eg. machine mining permissions).  However the reply was long as F... i'll try to read it thru today with though and see if there are any loopholes.

However. I beg any of those who are thinking about this dry land dredging. Please be careful. We do not want to anger the lawman and get yet another shit storm like 2005 or 2009. :) Especially in Lemmenjoki as the whole future of the place seems to hang by the thread at this time.

But yeah, i'll keep digging as i still have optimistic feeling that there is loophole as there seemed to be some keywords in Rauhala's message that might be what we need to focus on.

If he thinks that type of equipment would require a water permit then nearly every single high banker would need one. Sure the one you showed him is a bigger type and uses a bit more water but it still won't affect the water level or anything like that in a creek.. that's just dumb.

Show him this one too as most will not be using anything much bigger than this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAiRV1EpP3Q
Titel: SV: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 13 januari, 2021, 12:32:12
If he thinks that type of equipment would require a water permit then nearly every single high banker would need one.

And now you hit the nail in the head directly. This was also something Jouni expressed some concerns in. He said that even current hand mines are operating at the limits of what water may be pulled from the creeks. There is no real number on it, but he thought it is probably around 300l/min. So yeah. As i said i'll read it thru and make some sort of outline out of it and try to decode bit the law on it a bit (as he nicely linked in the law arguments also so i can check them).
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Skrivet av: iller skrivet 13 januari, 2021, 14:53:35
If he thinks that type of equipment would require a water permit then nearly every single high banker would need one.

And now you hit the nail in the head directly. This was also something Jouni expressed some concerns in. He said that even current hand mines are operating at the limits of what water may be pulled from the creeks. There is no real number on it, but he thought it is probably around 300l/min. So yeah. As i said i'll read it thru and make some sort of outline out of it and try to decode bit the law on it a bit (as he nicely linked in the law arguments also so i can check them).

Great, would love to read it. And even if you took up 1000L per minute it would be nothing from even a quite small creek. It would have no impact what so ever as the water is also running back into the creek again in most cases after it's settled in the settling pond.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 13 januari, 2021, 14:58:03
Great, would love to read it. And even if you took up 1000L per minute it would be nothing from even a quite small creek. It would have no impact what so ever as the water is also running back into the creek again in most cases after it's settled in the settling pond.

Yeah trust me i dont think it makes any sense either so i am with you on this. However tt is just how it is.
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Skrivet av: iller skrivet 13 januari, 2021, 17:59:27
Great, would love to read it. And even if you took up 1000L per minute it would be nothing from even a quite small creek. It would have no impact what so ever as the water is also running back into the creek again in most cases after it's settled in the settling pond.

Yeah trust me i dont think it makes any sense either so i am with you on this. However tt is just how it is.

Btw, to my understanding, the machine permit has nothing to do with how much water you use but how much material you process?
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 13 januari, 2021, 18:06:03
Yeah just realized that Jouni speaks of two differend permits. Water and... environment? Perhaps the latter is the machine mining thingy.
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Skrivet av: iller skrivet 13 januari, 2021, 20:43:32
Yeah just realized that Jouni speaks of two differend permits. Water and... environment? Perhaps the latter is the machine mining thingy.

To me when i spoke to pasi we only need one permit for machines, no water permit as i understood it, it's the same permit to my understanding but i might be wrong.

This is something a guide could be very good for btw. Permit process and what permits are needed and costs, then also guides on permits needed for building stuff on the claim etc if one wants to do that..
Only thing i know about that is to never mention you are building a sauna but a washing up place :D
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Skrivet av: Grävmaskinisten skrivet 14 januari, 2021, 04:48:06
Det här är min startskärm på mobilen, alla lagar,paragrafer ja faktiskt allt även ansökan om gruvtillstånd vattenlagar hela köret och allt är skrivet på svenska.
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Skrivet av: iller skrivet 14 januari, 2021, 07:59:13
Det här är min startskärm på mobilen, alla lagar,paragrafer ja faktiskt allt även ansökan om gruvtillstånd vattenlagar hela köret och allt är skrivet på svenska.

Kan du skicka länkarna? Kan skicka här eller FB, lär säkert sakna ett par.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 15 januari, 2021, 12:24:02
Hope i got that right on the google translate. There are links to bunch of law texts? I also got some additional info.. well will get some additional info on some guy who has gone thru this process allready so i'll wait that also and try to figure it out all before submitting my own version to ELY.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 19 januari, 2021, 10:25:57
Okay i've skimmed thru most of the documents given to me and.. i can say now few things that i think ... like are the key things here. Now do remember that these are NOT OFFICIAL things, but are things that seemed to come up over and over again. So these are MY INTERPRETATIONS!
Also this is just for the legality of non-machine mine permitted hand operated placer mines. So if you got permits for Excavators, dont worry, just blast away according to the permit you have.


So anyway, i submitted a long long very detailed plan for ELY reviewal. Magnus here on the forums knows a bit about it all ready, but yeah. I detailed the area of operations and planned equipment, cubic meters per summer, water cleaning, etc. Almost every last bit of detail. Now i am just waiting for their reply. I assume it could take months.

Depending on what the permit entails, i might make a vid for JomsaTube - ( https://www.youtube.com/c/jomsatube ) about it also... You guys think it would be interesting?
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Skrivet av: Grävmaskinisten skrivet 19 januari, 2021, 13:45:14
Okay i've skimmed thru most of the documents given to me and.. i can say now few things that i think ... like are the key things here. Now do remember that these are NOT OFFICIAL things, but are things that seemed to come up over and over again. So these are MY INTERPRETATIONS!
Also this is just for the legality of non-machine mine permitted hand operated placer mines. So if you got permits for Excavators, dont worry, just blast away according to the permit you have.

  • First of all, pumping capacity should be kept well below 1000l/min. Ideally around 500l/min as it is the closely related to classic hand operated sluicing operations.
  • Do not operate in flowing water (creeks, brooks, rivers, lakes any of it), and try to stay away from any flowing water as much as possible. Also recycling the dredging water IS strongly recommended. Note: It is still bit of an question as to "how far from" the flowing water.
  • No additional changes to land reclamation seem to exist, so just do the same stuff as for hand operated sluicing for reclamation
  • It is strongly RECOMENDED to request FREE preview from ELY on your planned operation. However the paper even if they greenlight you, it is not AN PERMIT, but an approval of your plan. Should you deviate from your plan, you could be in trouble should inspection be done on your claim (and i guess even requesting such paper will call some attention to your operation)
  • For Lemmenjoki area, the ELY review will also ask the opinion of MH (Ministry of Forestry), so ... yeah, keep that in mind

So anyway, i submitted a long long very detailed plan for ELY reviewal. Magnus here on the forums knows a bit about it all ready, but yeah. I detailed the area of operations and planned equipment, cubic meters per summer, water cleaning, etc. Almost every last bit of detail. Now i am just waiting for their reply. I assume it could take months.

Depending on what the permit entails, i might make a vid for JomsaTube - ( https://www.youtube.com/c/jomsatube ) about it also... You guys think it would be interesting?

Very interesting and you keep up the good work in this matter👍👍
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 19 januari, 2021, 22:02:42
So you're applying for permission to use the dry-land dredge on your claim? Or am I understanding it wrong? It will be interesting to see what they say, a video would be great! It's always great to see an actual case, with the whole process and outcome included.

I read the whole water law recently but it's really hard to know which parts actually apply to gold mining. And what is "irrelevant impact" on a stream anyway  ::)
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 20 januari, 2021, 05:37:30
So you're applying for permission to use the dry-land dredge on your claim? Or am I understanding it wrong?

As i said :
  • It is strongly RECOMENDED to request FREE preview from ELY on your planned operation. However the paper even if they greenlight you, it is not AN PERMIT, but an approval of your plan. Should you deviate from your plan, you could be in trouble should inspection be done on your claim (and i guess even requesting such paper will call some attention to your operation)

But i am asking them to review my use case for it's legality. I suspect it will be a ... somewhat tighter thing since we are talking about Lemmenjoki and the national park here. I really dont want to mess with the lawmen again. Had enough of them.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 25 januari, 2021, 16:00:44
Here is finally the video made in co-operation with TUKES : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38_2SageDtg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38_2SageDtg)

On the video i go thru the process of making a annual reporting about mining for Tukes. As for now i am not sure how do people from abroad authenticate to it though. (asked Pasi, he said there will be an option for it) ... So yeah. Enjoy! And remember to like'n'sub so i know if it's panning out or not :D
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Skrivet av: HANNU skrivet 26 januari, 2021, 08:05:22
Har inte kållat om gamla sättet att rapportera finns kvar, men håppas på det, därför att få i Sverige har finska bankinloggnings möjligheter.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 26 januari, 2021, 08:21:08
This is the link to the paper document version, which you can fill and send via snailmail to TUKES : https://tukes.fi/documents/5470659/8254242/Vuosittainen+selvitys+kullanhuuhdonnasta.pdf/e725f12c-8373-4eec-8dd2-f2a80b8cbd3d/Vuosittainen+selvitys+kullanhuuhdonnasta.pdf/Vuosittainen+selvitys+kullanhuuhdonnasta.pdf (https://tukes.fi/documents/5470659/8254242/Vuosittainen+selvitys+kullanhuuhdonnasta.pdf/e725f12c-8373-4eec-8dd2-f2a80b8cbd3d/Vuosittainen+selvitys+kullanhuuhdonnasta.pdf/Vuosittainen+selvitys+kullanhuuhdonnasta.pdf)

It is in Finnish, though but should be quite simple.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 05 februari, 2021, 09:08:00
ELY has responded to my inquiry. Long story short, they approved my plan, but there was some stipulations. Like Cannot dredge closer than 5m of the creek itself. Silt tailings must be stored outside of flood zones. And couple of other minor things. Might want to do a video out of this at somepoint.

So i guess it is off to find the money to invest into dredging now... (capacity was also specified... undirectly to 500l/min - 700l/min Max) ...

Again! Remember that these only apply to my own made specifications of mining, and Might not apply to yours.
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Skrivet av: Grävmaskinisten skrivet 05 februari, 2021, 09:25:07
Sounds great, must investigate my situation ;)
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 05 februari, 2021, 13:07:42
That is great news! They replied quite quickly too, good service. Did they include any special conditions from Metsä Halitus since it's in Lemmenjoki?

This season will be very exciting at Kaarreoja  8)  Looking forward to seeing your build, go get that money..  ;D
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 05 februari, 2021, 13:16:28
That is great news! They replied quite quickly too, good service. Did they include any special conditions from Metsä Halitus since it's in Lemmenjoki?

This season will be very exciting at Kaarreoja  8)  Looking forward to seeing your build, go get that money..  ;D

Interestingly no. There was nothing on MH. Maybe its still on its way?

Dont know i fi can afford to get the gear for this summer. I'll try, but i am in bit of pinch with cash atm.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 08 februari, 2021, 19:20:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPoD9CgJaRk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPoD9CgJaRk)

Allright. So a little bit about my thoughts on machines on hand operated claims.
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 08 februari, 2021, 23:23:51
Nice video, I think you make a very good point in that the guy shoveling is usually the real bottleneck for the operation. Many people invest too much in equipment when they don't have the strength to feed it  :)) But it's also a part of the hobby I guess, you see some nice machine and you want it too ...

One thing I think you missed with the trommel is the impact of clay in your paydirt. For loose gravels and sand, any sluice can do the job, but if there's a lot of clay on the stones I think a trommel can make a significant improvement. A regular sluice just isn't violent enough to clean the clay off the rocks, in my experience...

Have you had any problems with clay at your claim? Down at our place, around the "trap stones" at the bottom, there's a layer of very sticky clay on all the rocks. We've been examining and panning them separately to check, and they have gold stuck to them. @Hannu made a nice trommel, and it cleans those rocks very well, even the large flat ones.

How about a trommel that isn't mounted so high above ground? I'm liking this idea myself...  O:-)
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Skrivet av: Grävmaskinisten skrivet 09 februari, 2021, 05:46:08
Nice video, I think you make a very good point in that the guy shoveling is usually the real bottleneck for the operation. Many people invest too much in equipment when they don't have the strength to feed it  :)) But it's also a part of the hobby I guess, you see some nice machine and you want it too ...

One thing I think you missed with the trommel is the impact of clay in your paydirt. For loose gravels and sand, any sluice can do the job, but if there's a lot of clay on the stones I think a trommel can make a significant improvement. A regular sluice just isn't violent enough to clean the clay off the rocks, in my experience...

Have you had any problems with clay at your claim? Down at our place, around the "trap stones" at the bottom, there's a layer of very sticky clay on all the rocks. We've been examining and panning them separately to check, and they have gold stuck to them. @Hannu made a nice trommel, and it cleans those rocks very well, even the large flat ones.

How about a trommel that isn't mounted so high above ground? I'm liking this idea myself...  O:-)


There is only one way to get rid of that sticky clay and that's manuel scrubbing there will always be some clay left when you use trommels or shaker deck but if you can live with some clay left and process more material then it maybe worth it. In my case it's  time that stops  me using just traditional  methods but if I had some more time let's say 2 month then maybe I would just use traditional sluice and manuell scrubbing.....but even if you choose the right method and not finding good pay streak, well you know what I mean....
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 09 februari, 2021, 06:55:25
Nice video, I think you make a very good point in that the guy shoveling is usually the real bottleneck for the operation. Many people invest too much in equipment when they don't have the strength to feed it  :)) But it's also a part of the hobby I guess, you see some nice machine and you want it too ...

One thing I think you missed with the trommel is the impact of clay in your paydirt. For loose gravels and sand, any sluice can do the job, but if there's a lot of clay on the stones I think a trommel can make a significant improvement. A regular sluice just isn't violent enough to clean the clay off the rocks, in my experience...

Have you had any problems with clay at your claim? Down at our place, around the "trap stones" at the bottom, there's a layer of very sticky clay on all the rocks. We've been examining and panning them separately to check, and they have gold stuck to them. @Hannu made a nice trommel, and it cleans those rocks very well, even the large flat ones.
I guess the clay could be one good reason for trommels, but then again, i am not sure is it still worth it, unless all of your stones are clay covered. At my mine, sure we have had the clay problem. Specially during last few years at the Shitvalley cut (no really, its what we call it because the outhouse is there) .  However that clay is so tough i dont think 1-2m of trommel will be able to clean it. We had to use spades and hands to scrape it when we remember. Since we tried scraping bunch of stones to gold pan and panned it, and found nothing so wont be scraping in future.


There is only one way to get rid of that sticky clay and that's manuel scrubbing there will always be some clay left when you use trommels or shaker deck but if you can live with some clay left and process more material then it maybe worth it. In my case it's  time that stops  me using just traditional  methods but if I had some more time let's say 2 month then maybe I would just use traditional sluice and manuell scrubbing.....but even if you choose the right method and not finding good pay streak, well you know what I mean....

Not sure about the time point. In my experience it did not speed up the process. Well maybe if you have loose easily feedable ground, maybe then.
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 09 februari, 2021, 14:14:58
Paskalaaksoon!  :)) Not the most charming name for a pit, huh  :)) :)) Better be careful which "golden nuggets" you dig for there  >:D

You're right @Grävmaskinisten (https://www.guldforum.se/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2388) , if there's not a good paystreak it doesn't matter how much work you do. Like looking in the pan for more gold, after you finish panning the concentrate. But I think the trommel or shaker deck with rocks grinding against eachother will liberate a lot more gold than just the rocks tumbling in the sluice. Again it's the problem of feeding the machine enough for its capacity.

I don't know how much clay there will be at the bottom of my pit this year. If the yellow water is any indication, it will be sticky. But there's good gold in the "peasoup" too  8)

Speaking of machine-assisted digging, maybe you can make a followup video on land dredging vs traditional sluice after this season @jomsa (https://www.guldforum.se/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4205)  C:-)
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 09 februari, 2021, 14:34:19
Paskalaaksoon!  :)) Not the most charming name for a pit, huh  :)) :)) Better be careful which "golden nuggets" you dig for there  >:D

Speaking of machine-assisted digging, maybe you can make a followup video on land dredging vs traditional sluice after this season @jomsa (https://www.guldforum.se/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4205)  C:-)

Yes. Paskalaakso, well actuall i said wrong.. should be Shitgully...  Paskakuru.  And yeah dont want to dig too close to the shithouse.

But yeah, if i get the dredging stuff sorted out this season, it is a vid i will most likely do. Which actually reminds me. If some one knows of any good dry dredging nozzles for sale. Around 3" size.. PM me.
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Skrivet av: johanssonsan skrivet 09 februari, 2021, 15:52:42
Paskalaaksoon!  :)) Not the most charming name for a pit, huh  :)) :)) Better be careful which "golden nuggets" you dig for there  >:D

Speaking of machine-assisted digging, maybe you can make a followup video on land dredging vs traditional sluice after this season @jomsa (https://www.guldforum.se/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4205)  C:-)

Yes. Paskalaakso, well actuall i said wrong.. should be Shitgully...  Paskakuru.  And yeah dont want to dig too close to the shithouse.

But yeah, if i get the dredging stuff sorted out this season, it is a vid i will most likely do. Which actually reminds me. If some one knows of any good dry dredging nozzles for sale. Around 3" size.. PM me.

Please also leave a note here:  https://www.guldforum.se/forum/index.php?board=76.0
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 09 februari, 2021, 19:10:27
Or.. i could just have it manufactured once i get the details done right  :  see attachment...   Made that quickly with F360 while trying to figure stuff out.
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 09 februari, 2021, 19:37:10
Or.. i could just have it manufactured once i get the details done right  :  see attachment...   Made that quickly with F360 while trying to figure stuff out.

I'm no expert in dredges but you'll need 2 pipes from the pressure hose for a dry land dredge. One forwards to flush water into your dredge hole and one backwards to create suction, with an adjustable flow for the forward one.

Check the hydro force design:
(https://www.guldstrom.se/20.0.0.0/4938/cache/4938_0dfc5e07998a299e143a6fa19234145a.jpg)

Otherwise you'll just have a regular dredge nozzle but then you'll run out of water since you're not dredging inside the creek...
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 09 februari, 2021, 19:44:13
Or.. i could just have it manufactured once i get the details done right  :  see attachment...   Made that quickly with F360 while trying to figure stuff out.

I'm no expert in dredges but you'll need 2 pipes from the pressure hose for a dry land dredge. One forwards to flush water into your dredge hole and one backwards to create suction, with an adjustable flow for the forward one.

Otherwise you'll just have a regular dredge nozzle but then you'll run out of water since you're not dredging inside the creek...

I am aware of this. M1 had it, removed it from M2 for now, until i figure out the.. details.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 10 februari, 2021, 00:00:13
One more. I'll stop now i promise.  :)

All the small thing added. Positioning needs some work still. Maybe Mk3 is needed.
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Skrivet av: iller skrivet 10 februari, 2021, 17:37:13
One more. I'll stop now i promise.  :)

All the small thing added. Positioning needs some work still. Maybe Mk3 is needed.

That thing is starting to look real sexeeey :P
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 10 februari, 2021, 18:36:07
That thing is starting to look real sexeeey :P

Thanks. I am starting Mk3 now..  but i think i'll be keeping its details secret for now. :D  ..who knows maybe i prototype it. I start selling them if it works. Could use the cash. (as if anyone would buy it)
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Skrivet av: iller skrivet 10 februari, 2021, 20:59:12
That thing is starting to look real sexeeey :P

Thanks. I am starting Mk3 now..  but i think i'll be keeping its details secret for now. :D  ..who knows maybe i prototype it. I start selling them if it works. Could use the cash. (as if anyone would buy it)

The way to make money from gold diggers is to sell them equipment :P
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 15 februari, 2021, 15:05:25
Aaaaand... some news on my new sluices. :
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8myjummX_g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8myjummX_g)
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 15 februari, 2021, 15:47:11
It's almost done! Did you notice the expanded metal was backwards at 2:12 ?  ??? Guess it's easy to just flip it, but make sure it still fits when it's oriented the right way  C:-)

What do you think about the finnish square rubber mats by the way? Some of us swedish miners really like those.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 15 februari, 2021, 15:49:54
It's almost done! Did you notice the expanded metal was backwards at 2:12 ?  ??? Guess it's easy to just flip it, but make sure it still fits when it's oriented the right way  C:-)

What do you think about the finnish square rubber mats by the way? Some of us swedish miners really like those.

Well first of all, they were not supposed to make the expamet stuff there. So cant really comment on that. I was supposed to make my own special holder there at Uni metalshop, but i guess i'll use that.

Secondly, the square holed rubber mat, i myself use it randomly only for exploratory stuff as it is easy to spot gold on. But i've heard and seen myself, that gold tends to jump out of it occasionally. So it should be used only for screening, not for final resting place for gold.
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 15 februari, 2021, 15:55:02
I mean the deep Kulta Jussi mats, not the car boot type:

https://finndetector.com/Kullankaivuuv%C3%A4lineet/R%C3%A4nnit-ja-varusteet/Kulta-Jussi-Rihlamatto-20-x-44-cm-kumi-isoruutuinen/

These hold gold very well, even with high water flow. The only downside is you need to have exactly 20 cm ränni for them.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 15 februari, 2021, 15:58:15
I mean the deep Kulta Jussi mats, not the car boot type:

https://finndetector.com/Kullankaivuuv%C3%A4lineet/R%C3%A4nnit-ja-varusteet/Kulta-Jussi-Rihlamatto-20-x-44-cm-kumi-isoruutuinen/

These hold gold very well, even with high water flow. The only downside is you need to have exactly 20 cm ränni for them.

Oh those. I guess they are fine? Never used those ones with deeper profile but i dont see why they would not work. Though not sure how the vortex forms on them.
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Skrivet av: johanssonsan skrivet 15 februari, 2021, 16:10:45
I mean the deep Kulta Jussi mats, not the car boot type:

https://finndetector.com/Kullankaivuuv%C3%A4lineet/R%C3%A4nnit-ja-varusteet/Kulta-Jussi-Rihlamatto-20-x-44-cm-kumi-isoruutuinen/

These hold gold very well, even with high water flow. The only downside is you need to have exactly 20 cm ränni for them.

Oh those. I guess they are fine? Never used those ones with deeper profile but i dont see why they would not work. Though not sure how the vortex forms on them.
Where is yhe gold going when this mat is filled up with gravel and heavies?
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 15 februari, 2021, 16:11:58
I mean the deep Kulta Jussi mats, not the car boot type:

https://finndetector.com/Kullankaivuuv%C3%A4lineet/R%C3%A4nnit-ja-varusteet/Kulta-Jussi-Rihlamatto-20-x-44-cm-kumi-isoruutuinen/

These hold gold very well, even with high water flow. The only downside is you need to have exactly 20 cm ränni for them.

Oh those. I guess they are fine? Never used those ones with deeper profile but i dont see why they would not work. Though not sure how the vortex forms on them.
Where is yhe gold going when this mat is filled up with gravel and heavies?

And when does this happen with properly set up hand fed sluice? :D
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 15 februari, 2021, 16:19:05
Yeah it's an unconventional design but the vortex in the square is very good. We have discussed the square design a little here in regards to 3d-printing sluices. They never get full, the only way they could get full is if you have way too little water in the sluice I guess  :-\

But anyway, it's great to see your sluice getting ready. It's going to catch some very nice gold this summer  8) Will you be using the green carpet from your old sluice in the upper half of it?

Don't forget to look for korundi, there's a lot of nice stones at Kaarreoja  O:-) With all those riffles at the end you will catch a lot of interesting minerals, just need to sieve and look at them in good sunlight to find the goodies  C:-)
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 15 februari, 2021, 16:22:23
But anyway, it's great to see your sluice getting ready. It's going to catch some very nice gold this summer  8) Will you be using the green carpet from your old sluice in the upper half of it?

The new sluices are 50mm wider than the old ones. So not possible to use the old green carpet. I'll be making new one, and if i manage to fix that expamet i'll try on some spaghetti i got stashed away. Just to see how it works.


Don't forget to look for korundi, there's a lot of nice stones at Kaarreoja  O:-) With all those riffles at the end you will catch a lot of interesting minerals, just need to sieve and look at them in good sunlight to find the goodies  C:-)
Yeah i've found bunch of gemstones during the years. It is one of the reasons i wanted more riffle area for the sluice so i have slightly increased chance to catch garnets and corundums.
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 15 februari, 2021, 16:32:32
Here's a big corundum I found last season:

[mmg]1208[/mmg]

It's a bit hard to see from the image but it has both pink and greyish-blue areas, most of the stone is grey unfortunately. There's both pink rubies and sky blue sapphires if you're lucky  O:-) Still hoping to find some big ones with good colour...
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 15 februari, 2021, 16:39:18
Here is bunch of the ones i've found. I have another picture somewher where there is even more of them, cant find it now though.
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 15 februari, 2021, 16:43:03
Wow, you're killing me with those, the red and purple ones are soooo beautiful!  :o :o :o How big are they roughly? Thank goodness there's someone else on Kaarreoja who looks for these wonderful treasures  O:-) The crystal with a side crystal on it is really cool too  :o
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 15 februari, 2021, 16:45:50
Wow, you're killing me with those, the red and purple ones are soooo beautiful!  :o :o :o How big are they roughly? Thank goodness there's someone else on Kaarreoja who looks for these wonderful treasures  O:-) The crystal with a side crystal on it is really cool too  :o

Part of professional pride of gold miner is to know a bit about gemstones and to have an eye that can spot them. So i have something like two dozen of these. Largest is like.. hmm. I'd say 30mm .. smallesta and most of them are tiny like 8 - 15mm and very broken.
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Skrivet av: johanssonsan skrivet 16 februari, 2021, 21:37:33
But anyway, it's great to see your sluice getting ready. It's going to catch some very nice gold this summer  8) Will you be using the green carpet from your old sluice in the upper half of it?

The new sluices are 50mm wider than the old ones. So not possible to use the old green carpet. I'll be making new one, and if i manage to fix that expamet i'll try on some spaghetti i got stashed away. Just to see how it works.


Don't forget to look for korundi, there's a lot of nice stones at Kaarreoja  O:-) With all those riffles at the end you will catch a lot of interesting minerals, just need to sieve and look at them in good sunlight to find the goodies  C:-)
Yeah i've found bunch of gemstones during the years. It is one of the reasons i wanted more riffle area for the sluice so i have slightly increased chance to catch garnets and corundums.

Did you ever think of using this new type of mat - Dream Mat:
(http://)
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 16 februari, 2021, 21:47:42
Did you ever think of using this new type of mat - Dream Mat:

Very interested to test it. Maybe if piece of it appears my way someday then yeah. But for now i think its better if i use my money on getting the basic equipment back into running order.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 28 februari, 2021, 16:18:37
Related to last discussion, here is how i do basic gold mat for myself. Been using them for decades and never felt that they loose gold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qan2aAre5Eo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qan2aAre5Eo)
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 05 april, 2021, 06:41:36
Went to visit the mine and took some stuff there. Still plenty of snow there, but it was melting fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWRJU8okAPk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWRJU8okAPk)
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 05 april, 2021, 13:37:25
Very nice to see some views from Lemmenjoki in the winter  :D It looks like there isn't much snow this year? How deep was the snow outside of the trail?

Everything looks so different when it's covered by snow ... But I think I can see my pit (or rock tailings pile at least) in the video just after you crossed Kaarreoja by Isola  8)

2 more months ... then it starts again! C:-)
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 05 april, 2021, 14:21:24
I'd say there was something like half a meter of snow.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 04 maj, 2021, 14:45:09
Ooh forum upgrade done i see.. ?

While down few new clips from spring :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1uMUf9pAFU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1uMUf9pAFU)

and latter one, should have more interesting scenery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBSPJN2OVw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBSPJN2OVw)

i hope this works.
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Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 07 maj, 2021, 21:52:49
Loved seeing the winter scenery up there, thank you for sharing! It was a really nice music track to go with the return journey too, I liked it a lot. You're becoming a professional video maker  :)

Did you meet some other miners at Kaarreoja on the way back? I noticed 2 snowmobiles were going to Isola just ahead of you.  I guess there's a lot of junk that needs to be moved away during the winters, now that the mechanized mining is over...
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 08 maj, 2021, 08:23:20
Loved seeing the winter scenery up there, thank you for sharing! It was a really nice music track to go with the return journey too, I liked it a lot. You're becoming a professional video maker  :)
Nice to hear you liked. I wish i could spent more effort into these though. Now as i am juggling between my University studies and full time work ... they are always bit rushed or made late in the day when i am tired :D


Did you meet some other miners at Kaarreoja on the way back? I noticed 2 snowmobiles were going to Isola just ahead of you.  I guess there's a lot of junk that needs to be moved away during the winters, now that the mechanized mining is over...
Yeah i met Pekka and Ulla as i mentioned on the film. Few Reindeer herders also visited me (my little cousin and one another villager) ... then yeah it was Kanamäki and his crew transporting scrap around your claim. I chatted Kanamäki a bit while passing by.
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 17 maj, 2021, 14:16:32
So... i released a new video. Subject is about making a new gold mining permit application. However the subject matter is somewhat... complicated and i did not yet have the time to make subtitles as it is complicated text. What do you guys think, would subtitled version be of any help?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfCN95_4tsk
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Skrivet av: Grävmaskinisten skrivet 17 maj, 2021, 19:59:49
I sure want subtitles, and I think there are more out there who wants :)
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Skrivet av: iller skrivet 18 maj, 2021, 17:57:53
I want an English version ;D
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Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 25 maj, 2021, 07:50:05
I sure want subtitles, and I think there are more out there who wants :)

Now with rough subtitles.

I want an English version ;D

I have no idea how to do it. The words and terms in that paper are not on any dictionary i could find.
Titel: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: Grävmaskinisten skrivet 26 maj, 2021, 08:53:32
Nice work with the subtitles  :)
Titel: SV: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 29 maj, 2021, 14:41:28
Nice work with the subtitles  :)

You are welcome. I hope it helps, despite it being extremely rough translation. The Legal terminology is horrible to understand even in Finnish for me.. .
Titel: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: johanssonsan skrivet 29 maj, 2021, 17:45:16
I have subtitles in Swedish!
Titel: SV: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 30 maj, 2021, 15:21:09
So... things got out of hand a littlebit with me trying to develope single roll of film. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY2ogHXOfyE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY2ogHXOfyE)

So thats 2003 - 2009 years of my stuff at Kaarreoja crushed into one single huge chunk.
Titel: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 02 juni, 2021, 13:12:20
That's a lovely video, so many memories must be coming back from seeing those pictures. It was really nice to see Kaarreoja at all different seasons! Kanamäki had told us that Kaarreoja could flood spectacularly, but I had a hard time imagining what it would look like. How strange that the water just flushes from the entire hillside like that.

I found the information about gold coming from Rossinoja exciting. There's a high bench deposit at Petronellan Kolmio that I am even more curious about exploring now...  ;D Looking at the shaded terrain map there are so many old channels at your cabin elevation and even higher. I think that's the explanation for the gold high above the creek. Maybe the richest ground is yet to be found?

Keep the great videos coming :)
Titel: SV: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 03 juni, 2021, 16:55:56
I found the information about gold coming from Rossinoja exciting. There's a high bench deposit at Petronellan Kolmio that I am even more curious about exploring now...  ;D Looking at the shaded terrain map there are so many old channels at your cabin elevation and even higher. I think that's the explanation for the gold high above the creek. Maybe the richest ground is yet to be found?

Keep the great videos coming :)

Yeah the western hillside is full of surprises. The DEM model i made myself on the area also revealed... interesting tidbits.. not sure i am ready to share them really... or really the point would be lost as they are mostly related to our claim.

Have to see about the vid's for future. Only so much i i can do.
Titel: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: Osmiridium skrivet 03 juni, 2021, 19:59:07
He he, you can share your insights, I will only dig up the gold that's on our side of the border  :)) :)) In all seriousness though, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a nice high deposit there just waiting to be found. The only thing stopping us is how many prospecting holes we can dig in a season  C:-)
Titel: SV: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 13 juni, 2021, 17:46:25
One more week till i head over to Kaarreoja for entire month....
https://youtu.be/xsPJtKPGDtc (https://youtu.be/xsPJtKPGDtc)
Titel: SV: Jomsa is in the house
Skrivet av: jomsa skrivet 25 juli, 2021, 12:56:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cia5mFCuvYk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cia5mFCuvYk)

Some mid season news....  feat. Beer...